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chiefalchemistyesterday at 10:35 AM7 repliesview on HN

The constrain isn’t merely financial, it’s broader than that. Teenagers are less free because adults and society have bulldozed the adversity out of teen lives. This sheltering is creating generations that are more - not less - fragile.

Generations that know nothing but comfort. They are prisoners of unrealistic expectations of what real life is like.


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TheOtherHobbesyesterday at 11:32 AM

The adversity is very much there, but it's all emotional and social. What's missing is (mild) physical adversity, and self-directed play and exploration.

Mild somewhat-dangerous-but-not-really play teaches that actions and decisions have consequences, and if you make a mistake it hurts - maybe a lot.

The world is a dangerous place, but some element of risk is both unavoidable and exciting. And it's safe (more or less) to explore and take risks.

When the stress is all emotional and social - high school bullying, status games, cliques and groups, gender wars, random adult authoritarianism - it teaches you that dissent is forbidden and you must conform to the group or you will be punished by it.

You never get the lessons about autonomy and exploration. You're physically comfortable but emotionally underdeveloped with a limited sense of individual agency. There's a fair chance you'll have social PTSD and confuse individuality with permanent rebellion. And your natural state will be permanently-triggered rage about something.

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A_D_E_P_Tyesterday at 10:41 AM

I don't think that's it.

There's definitely a kind of frenetic adversity in the whole college admissions process, at least for kids who are inclined to go that route. If anything, it has gotten much worse over the past 30 years; it's much more stressful than it used to be, and it's easy for teens to imagine that every little thing carries high stakes.

If by "adversity" you mean helping the family put food on the table, I certainly agree that there's less of that. Today we have more weird, more detached, and less rational forms of adversity.

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insane_dreameryesterday at 9:41 PM

> Generations that know nothing but comfort.

Physical, perhaps.

Mentally and emotionally? Not. The pressure to "swim or sink" and grab one of those increasingly precious "well paying jobs" or be flipping burgers is much higher than it was when I was a kid.

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ensocodeyesterday at 10:42 AM

> Generations that know nothing but comfort.

sad but true

> They are prisoners of unrealistic expectations of what real life is like.

what is real life like? I guess real is what parents demonstrate, not?

UncleMeatyesterday at 1:14 PM

This is an evergreen complaint made of every generation.

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A4ET8a8uTh0_v2yesterday at 11:05 AM

<< Generations that know nothing but comfort. They are prisoners of unrealistic expectations of what real life is like.

Maybe? I am giving my kid a lot of comfort, because I see how almost everything is stacked against her future. If the unrealistic expectations exist, it is from our ruling class that we simply accept it:D

just sayin'

smeegeryesterday at 11:43 AM

teens experience more adversity now than before. social and existential adversity.