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MangoToupelast Friday at 5:02 PM1 replyview on HN

> Both statements are false, Israel does not "kill americans on a regular basis"

Have you not turned on the news recently? The IDF regularly bombs american citizens living in palestine.

Then there's the USS Liberty bombing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

Not to mention the likely hundreds of americans assassinated by mossad, cf Rise First And Kill

> Saudi Arabia has not supported proxy warfare killing thousands of Americans.

Have you never heard of 9/11? Also Wtf are you referring to? None of the proxy wars allegedly funded by iran (as if we haven't done orders of magnitude more evil things with proxy wars, cf the war in ukraine) have killed "thousands of americans".

And frankly, even if this were credible, who could blame them given the sanctions? We're actively destroying their ability to live life for seeming no reason other than arbitrary geopolitical control.


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brepppyesterday at 1:08 PM

The USS Liberty is a single incident in 70 years which is a case of mistaken identification, only in Iraq there are at least 600 Iran associated deaths of US troops (https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/04/04/...) and that's probably an underestimation

About Saudi Arabia, the 9/11 hijackers might have been partially Saudi, but not backed by their government. Even if Iran only killed a thousand US troops and not thousands (marine barracks bombing, iraq war and others) that's two orders of magnitude more than Israel or Saudi Arabia, and there's a good reason, these are intentional attacks against US armed forces.

> sanctions? We're actively destroying their ability to live life for seeming no reason other than arbitrary geopolitical control.

The reasons for the sanctions is Iran's insistence on kidnapping diplomats, supporting terrorism and proliferating weapons. If you believe they are people like you and me and have agency, they are also responsible over the course of 40 years of choosing actions that led to them being completely isolated