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dparklast Saturday at 6:08 AM1 replyview on HN

You can read all about the actual stories of minorities rising up to fight majorities in history books. This isn’t some hypothetical we have to approach from a purely philosophical standpoint.

All modern functioning democracies I’m aware of have a set of rights they have agreed everyone has a right to. This has largely been achieved through bloodshed.

Your idea that we’re should devolve into feudal tribes seems quite obviously destined to result in a great deal of bloodshed. We have the term warlord to describe those who frequently end up in charge in this sort of arrangement.

> a dictatorship is a minority rule yet you imply they can't exist because the majority would destroy the minority in power.

Nowhere did I say or imply that. Those in power usually stay in power because they have power. Numbers are only one sort of power.


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mothballedlast Saturday at 6:18 AM

Taiwan is considered by the Chinese to be part of China. Their strongest hypothetical allies, USA, when added to their population doesn't even come close to reaching the population of China. By all counts, they lose the popular vote of China (which again, considers Taiwan part of it). And China does not recognized their 'minority' government.

Yet Taiwan still exists, all while having less military power than China.

How is that? Seems to throw a bone in your whole idea that a rogue minority government in the envelope of a majority that considers them encompassing part of their country, is destined to fail or devolve into some pre-civilization caveman situation.

>>> Keep going. What happens when the majority refuses to acknowledge the legitimacy of the minority government?

>> a dictatorship is a minority rule yet you imply they can't exist because the majority would destroy the minority in power.

>Nowhere did I say or imply that. Those in power usually stay in power because they have power. Numbers are only one sort of power.

And here we get to the truth of what you're saying. We can just handwave away 'numbers are only one sort of power' to mean literally anything could happen if the majority refuses to acknowledge the legitimacy of the minority government. Including, most common on the world stage, simply carrying on with trade while maintaining a tenuous balance and the occasional wars that happen even on inter or intra democracy lines. Because most often, it's not worth a violent fight. So basically, nothing of interest beyond the status quo to note here.

"Go down the hole deep enough" and you’ll figure out why my assertions are true -- the world is a collection of minorities in various alliances that manage to by those means still exist.

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