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augment_meyesterday at 7:51 AM9 repliesview on HN

I noticed that despite really liking Karpathy and the blog, I was am kind of wincing/involuntarily reacting to the LLM-like "It's not X, its Y"-phrases:

> it's not just a website you go to like Google, it's a little spirit/ghost that "lives" on your computer

> it's not just about the image generation itself, it's about the joint capability coming from text generation

There would be no reaction from me on this 3 years ago, but now this sentence structure is ruined for me


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kakapo5672yesterday at 6:37 PM

Very broadly, AI sentence-structure and word choice is recursing back into society, changing how humans use language. The Economist recently had a piece on word usage of British Parliament members. They are adopting words and phrases commonly seen in AI.

We're embarking on a ginormous planetary experiment here.

spaceman_2020yesterday at 2:09 PM

I used to use a lot of em dashes normally in my writing - they were my go-to replacements for commas and semicolons

But I had to change how I write because people started calling my writing “AI generated”

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karpathyyesterday at 4:26 PM

You’re absolutely right!

Jk jk, now that you pointed it out I can’t unsee it.

d-lispyesterday at 9:17 AM

I hated these sentences way before LLMs, at least in the context of an explanation.

> it's not just a website you go like Google, it's a little spirit/ghost that "lives" on your computer

This type of sentence, I call rhetorical fat. Get rid of this fat and you obtain a boring sentence that repeats what has been said in the previous one.

Not all rhetorical fats are equal, and I must admit I find myself eyerolling on the "little spirit" part more than about the fatness.

I understand the author wants to decorate things and emphasize key elements, and the hate I feel is only caused by the incompatible projection of my ideals to a text that doesn't belong to me.

> it's not just about the image generation itself, it's about the joint capability coming from text generation.

That's unjustified conceptual stress.

That could be a legitimate answer to a question ("No, no, it's not just about that, it's more about this"), but it's a text. Maybe the text wants you to be focused, maybe the text wants to hype you; this is the shape of the hype without the hype.

"I find image generation is cooler when paired with text generation."

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matsemannyesterday at 1:46 PM

Yeah, came to read Karpathy's thoughts, but might as well ask an LLM myself..

yard2010yesterday at 11:41 AM

I cannot unsee this anymore and it ruins the whole internet experience for me

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another_twistyesterday at 9:40 AM

Same here, had to configure ChatGPT to stop making these statements. Also had to configure bunch of other stuff to make it bland when answering questions.

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huevosabioyesterday at 8:10 AM

Same, I cringe when I read this structure.

nathiasyesterday at 9:43 AM

It's not text - it's clickbait distillied to grammar.