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andaiyesterday at 9:47 AM1 replyview on HN

The bit about o3 being the turning point is very interesting. I heard someone say that o3 (or perhaps the cheaper o4-mini) should have been called gpt-5, and that people would have been mind blown. Instead it kind of went under the radar as far as the mainstream goes.

Whereas we just got the incremental progress with gpt-5 instead and it was very underwhelming. (Plus like 5 other issues at launch, but that's a separate story ;)

I'm not sure if o4-mini would have made a good default gpt though. (Most use is conversational and its language is very awkward.) So they could have just called it gpt-5 pro or something, and put it on the $20 tier. I don't know.


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karpathyyesterday at 4:29 PM

I agree with this fwiw, for many months I talked to people who never used o3 and didn’t know what it was because it sounded weird. Maybe it wasn’t obvious at the time but that was a good major point release to make then.