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carlosjobimyesterday at 12:53 PM6 repliesview on HN

The EU is not Europe. I never see any pro-EU sentiment anywhere besides on HN and Reddit. Talk to Europeans and they hate the EU and see it as an oppressive foreign power. Except for the Germans.


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andsoitisyesterday at 1:00 PM

> Talk to Europeans and they hate the EU and see it as an oppressive foreign power.

Your framing is off, I'm afraid.

Across Europe, most people see the EU as more good than bad, especially compared to the alternative of countries acting alone. At the same time, support is often cautious rather than enthusiastic.

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phatfishyesterday at 1:21 PM

Which Europeans have you "talked" to? Discord and twitter don't count. People moan about the EU like they moan about their own national government.

Opinion polls on actually leaving the EU show a minority in favour. Most Europeans saw Brexit play out and realise sticking the finger up at your neighbours is not a winning strategy.

pezezintoday at 12:27 AM

Spanish guy here: no, we don't hate the EU, quite the opposite. Please stop feeding on right-wing propaganda that wants to destroy us.

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saubeidlyesterday at 1:04 PM

That is more indicative of the company you keep than the actual reality on the ground.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/657860/member-states-show-stron...

Lapel2742yesterday at 1:56 PM

> Talk to Europeans and they hate the EU and see it as an oppressive foreign power.

Maybe you should get out of your right-wing bubble.

- EU approval among its citizens hits record high as security fears grow, poll shows (https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-approval-among-its-c...)

- Nearly three quarters of EU citizens (74%) say that, taking everything into account, their country has benefited from being a member of the EU. (https://europa.eu/eurobarometer/surveys/detail/3378)

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ulfwyesterday at 2:24 PM

You have no idea what you're talking about. Stop generalising. You don't know what Europeans think at all "except for the Germans"