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rao-vyesterday at 7:37 PM5 repliesview on HN

What’s the pragmatic solution to ipv6 allowing everybody in my household to be trivially and stably mapped to a unique subnet? I like the accidental semi-randomization that ipv4 and ISP NAT offered and I don’t see anything like it short of putting my entire home net on a VPN (it’s expensive and can’t keep up with my ISP’s bandwidth)


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lloekiyesterday at 7:53 PM

Each device gets directly addressable from WAN with v6 but it also gets a randomised privacy IP that rotates very frequently so each individual device is just as "hidden" as it was with v4+NAT.

Your v6 subnet prefix is no different than whatever WAN-side v4 your NAT had. "Accidental semi-randomization" of the WAN side IP is not something one could reliably count on. Many ISPs just hand over a static-like IP, that is, even when it's supposed to be random the pool of IPs is so constrained that it's usually the same simply through the IP lease surviving power cycling. And that was before CGNAT.

If your concern is being identifiable through your IP then counting on whatever v4 artifact is the wrong move. Use a VPN with randomised exit nodes.

icedchaitoday at 2:33 AM

Everybody in your household is already mapped to a single IPv4 address that rarely changes with most ISPs. Mine hasn't changed in over 3 years. My IPv6 /56 prefix delegation hasn't changed, either.

yjftsjthsd-hyesterday at 7:46 PM

It's true that you won't get CGNAT without having CGNAT. Depending on your concern, it is possible to NAT66 to make your entire network appear as one IP.

lonjiltoday at 5:42 AM

what exactly do you mean by "trivially and stably mapped to a unique subnet"?

mattypgyesterday at 8:30 PM

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