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cm2012last Saturday at 10:54 PM4 repliesview on HN

Spotify paid out ten billion dollars to artists in 2024. This is not small potatoes - total 2024 music industry merchandise sales was around $14b.

Youtube also paid out literally 50x more to creators in 2024 than Patreon had total subscriptions on the platform.

These big platform payouts matter a lot.


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cwillulast Saturday at 11:20 PM

> This is not small potatoes

Unless you're a small potato. Approximately 0% of what I pay for spotify goes to the artists I actually listen to. Fucking Taylor Swift and the Beatles estate don't need my money.

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vintermannyesterday at 7:25 AM

To rights owners, not to artists. It's not a trivial difference. Ask Taylor Swift.

cjlast Saturday at 11:00 PM

Some quick Googling shows 1 million streams pays approx $2000.

You'd need 40,000,000 streams to earn $80,000.

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chrneulast Saturday at 11:24 PM

99% of that 10 billion went to a handful of artists. Actually, I'd wager nearly half of it went to labels and other middlemen, but that's beside the point. The vast majority of money in the music industry never trickles down, ever.

edit: I looked it up, 70% of spotify's payouts go directly to labels, not artists. So...that $10 bil is nothing.

This is by design and it's the same broken system that metallica defended in the 90s/00s because it benefits large artists while fucking over the other 99%.

We keep repeating the same script using the same busted short term logic.

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