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HarHarVeryFunnyyesterday at 6:59 PM1 replyview on HN

Waymos rely on remote operators to take over when the vehicle doesn't know what to do, and obviously if the remote connection is gone then this is no longer available, and one might speculate that the cars then "fail safe" by not proceeding if they are in a situation where remote help is called for and inaccessible.

Perhaps traffic lights being out is what caused the cars to stop operating autonomously and try to phone home for help, or perhaps losing the connection home is itself enough to trigger a fail safe shutdown mode ?

It reminds a bit of the recent TeslaBot video, another of their teleoperated stunts, where we see the bot appearing to remove a headset with both hands that it wasn't wearing (but that it's remote operator was), then fall over backwards "dead" as the remote operator evidentially clocked off his shift or went for a bathroom break.


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MBCookyesterday at 7:07 PM

That’s clearly unacceptable. It needs to gracefully handle not having that fallback. That is an incredibly obvious possible failure.

Things go wrong -> get human help

Human not available -> just block the road???

How is there not a very basic “pull over and wait” final fallback.

I can get staying put if the car thinks it hit someone or ran over something. But in a situation like this where the problem is fully external it should fall back to “park myself” mode.

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