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JimDabellyesterday at 3:24 PM1 replyview on HN

> The moment you look at the real statistics (https://wpt.fyi/results/?label=master&label=experimental&ali...) where Apple can’t game the system the story becomes much clearer and the criticism much more justified.

This is misleading. The “real statistics” you link to include non-standard, Blink-only APIs like Web Bluetooth and Web USB. These are not web standards. Google proposed them and both Mozilla and Apple have rejected them on security and privacy grounds. Google have not been able to convince anybody to implement them.

Web standards are not simply whatever Google unilaterally decide they want. Standards require consensus.


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mdhbyesterday at 3:59 PM

Jim once again you are jumping in to defend Apple no matter what the topic is. It’s a really strange behaviour yet again.

Since you seemed to be in such a rush to offer a defence it seems you misread what the chart was… like every other time this topic comes up over the past few years.

That chart is *the official web platform standards* and shows which tests ONLY FAIL IN A SINGLE BROWSER

So this idea of “oh no it’s just evil Google doing their own thing doesn’t actually apply here because that’s literally already accounted for by the fact that it’s how many of the official web standards only fail in one browser.

I don’t know why you keep glossing over this no matter how many times it has been politely pointed out to you.

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