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nixosbestostoday at 1:14 AM2 repliesview on HN

Yeah but wayback doesn't lend itself to the "omg my x11 I could neverrrrr :huff-emoji: :huff-emoji:" hysteria.

That's all this comes down to. Every single fucking last thread about Wayland on HN is this way. Every fucking last one. Tall about the vocal minority. Just absurdity.

You have accessibility complaints and don't care about the coordinated efforts across toolkits to make a material improvement? Okay. But every single god damn other issue is a distro issue and people on HN insisting their Linux trial 10 years ago is still authoritative today. Fucking ridiculous.

Early contributor to sway and cosmic, most of the Wayland complaints you read are handwave-y bullshit, idk what else to say.


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mzajctoday at 2:50 AM

Here's two complaints: it's a security theater, and it's horribly balkanized by design.

On X, I can run tools like xmacro or xdotool to automate the desktop to my heart's content. On Wayland, this isn't supported "for my security" and my remaining options boil down to either using a tool that works one level of abstraction lower (requires root and/or a daemon), or a tool made exclusively for my DE if one even exists. What used to be a cohesive environment with portable knowledge and tools is replaced by incomplete, broken, or outright missing tools and a complete lack of parity across DEs. For what? Am I supposed to be happy about this?

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mslatoday at 2:49 AM

OK, you can't have your preferred environment because someone else has a different use-case.

Moreover, people will condescend to you and insist your setup never worked, nobody ever used it, and nobody cares that it's going away. Plus, they state that you are just being difficult, if not delusional, when you say that you are quite happy with how things are. I mean, your way never worked, so how could it have been your way at all? You must be a troll, troll. Stop trolling.