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TeMPOraLyesterday at 2:05 PM4 repliesview on HN

Still, because reality doesn't respect boundaries of human-made categories, and because people never define their categories exhaustively, we can safely assume that something almost-but-not-quite like a commons, is subject to an almost-but-not-quite tragedy of the commons.


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bee_rideryesterday at 5:30 PM

That seems to assume some sort of… maybe unfounded linearity or something? I mean, I’m not sure I agree that GitHub is nearly a commons in any sense, but let’s put that aside as a distraction…

The idea of the tragedy of the commons relies on this feedback loop of having these unsustainably growing herds (growing because they can exploit the zero-cost-to-them resources of the commons). Feedback loops are notoriously sensitive to small parameter changes. MS could presumably impose some damping if they wanted.

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reactordevyesterday at 2:21 PM

An A- is still an A kind of thinking. I like this approach as not everything perfectly fits the mold.

lo_zamoyskiyesterday at 3:31 PM

There is an analogy in the sense that for the users a resource is, for certain practical intents and purposes, functionally common. Social media is like this as well.

But I would make the following clarifications:

1. A private entity is still the steward of the resource and therefore the resource figures into the aims, goals, and constraints of the private entity.

2. The common good is itself under the stewardship of the state, as its function is guardian of the common good.

3. The common good is the default (by natural law) and prior to the private good. The latter is instituted in positive law for the sake of the former by, e.g., reducing conflict over goods.

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ttiuraniyesterday at 2:31 PM

The whole notion of the "tragedy of the commons" needs to be put to rest. It's an armchair thought experiment that was disproven at the latest in the 90s by Elinor Ostrom with actual empirical evidence of commons.

The "tragedy", if you absolutely need to find one, is only for unrestricted, free-for-all commons, which is obviously a bad idea.

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