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simonwlast Friday at 3:12 PM6 repliesview on HN

You refusing to write open source will do nothing to slow the development of AI models - there's plenty of other training data in the world.

It will however reduce the positive impact your open source contributions have on the world to 0.

I don't understand the ethical framework for this decision at all.


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lunar_mycroftlast Friday at 5:43 PM

> You refusing to write open source will do nothing to slow the development of AI models - there's plenty of other training data in the world.

There's also plenty of other open source contributors in the world.

> It will however reduce the positive impact your open source contributions have on the world to 0.

And it will reduce your negative impact through helping to train AI models to 0.

The value of your open source contributions to the ecosystem is roughly proportional to the value they provide to LLM makers as training data. Any argument you could make that one is negligible would also apply to the other, and vice versa.

blibblelast Friday at 5:18 PM

> You refusing to write open source will do nothing to slow the development of AI models - there's plenty of other training data in the world.

if true, then the parasites can remove ALL code where the license requires attribution

oh, they won't? I wonder why

bwfan123last Friday at 6:38 PM

> there's plenty of other training data in the world.

Not if most of it is machine generated. The machine would start eating its own shit. The nutrition it gets is from human-generated content.

> I don't understand the ethical framework for this decision at all.

The question is not one of ethics but that of incentives. People producing open source are incentivized in a certain way and it is abhorrent to them when that framework is violated. There needs to be a new license that explicitly forbids use for AI training. That may encourage folks to continue to contribute.

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Juliatelast Friday at 4:11 PM

The ethical framework is simply this one: what is the worth of doing +1 to everyone, if the very thing you wish didn't exist (because you believe it is destroying the world) benefits x10 more from it?

If bringing fire to a species lights and warms them, but also gives the means and incentives to some members of this species to burn everything for good, you have every ethical freedom to ponder whether you contribute to this fire or not.

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bgwalterlast Friday at 4:01 PM

Guilt-tripping people into providing more fodder for the machine. That is really something else.

I'm not surprised that you don't understand ethics.

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realmadluditelast Friday at 5:58 PM

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