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godelskiyesterday at 11:23 AM0 repliesview on HN

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Your argument is dumb because it's objectively better to optimize x conditioned on y than optimize y conditioned on x.

Maybe the worst variant of this is where people don't realize they're actually arguing for different things but because it's the same general topic they assume everything is the same (duals are common). I feel like this describes many political arguments and it feels in part intentional...