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jmward01yesterday at 8:27 PM2 repliesview on HN

It is definitely time to stop looking at equity as part of pay at a startup. The trend is extremely clear, startups aren't paying out to employees but the C suite gets internal raises and IPO is pushed to infinity. It is nice to have some paper laying around but that is all it is, paper. Go to a startup for a year. Get the experience, move and get a 20-50% pay increase and keep doing that every year and you will be way happier and financially healthier.


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tyreyesterday at 8:53 PM

This is always the case. Negotiate equity, but assume it’s worth zero. It’s not liquid and highly speculative. It’s a nice to have.

edit: which doesn’t mean join companies you don’t believe in! Please do. But don’t expect it to be there, don’t include it in life plans, don’t pay attention to valuations, etc.

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tbrownawyesterday at 8:31 PM

I thought this was always the case? Hearing about examples certainly isn't new.

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