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Swizecyesterday at 9:59 PM6 repliesview on HN

> I've tried the ultra-cynical view at workplaces, and would have had better results with some "idealism", which he rightly notes in his form is just a more effectively action atop a base of clear-eyed cynicism.

Cynics feel smart but optimists win.

You have to be at least a little optimistic, sometimes even naive, to achieve unlikely outcomes. Otherwise you’ll never put in enough oomph to get lucky.


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kelnostoday at 8:07 AM

> Cynics feel smart but optimists win.

That's not been my experience. Optimists also tend to assume the best motivations behind the actions of others, and that will nearly always bite you in the ass in any sizeable organization.

I've been the ultra-cynic before, and agree that doesn't work either. People don't like working with you, and don't trust you.

I think we need to be realistic on order to be successful, and neither ultra-cynicism nor optimism fits the bill.

I would suggest that a healthy, reasonable amount of cynicism is a part of being realistic about how the world works.

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wombatpmtoday at 7:36 AM

Optimists proclaim we live in the best of all possible worlds. Pessimists fear that is true.

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neal_jonestoday at 5:51 AM

Yea, agree with the cynics/optimists point.

Feels like cynics are right and optimists get rich.

I definitely lean more to cynic, my very good friend is def more optimist. He’s worth more than 10x me.

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danieltanfh95today at 6:20 AM

> Cynics feel smart but optimists win.

survivorship bias.

gjvctoday at 1:22 AM

100% agree. Cynics can be always be right about the past, but optimists are often right about the future, because they are the ones actually building it.

The negative replies to this comment are ironic.

themafiayesterday at 10:08 PM

> but optimists win.

Win.. what?

> enough oomph to get lucky.

The underpaid cargo cult mentality is alive in well in corporate America.

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