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earthnailtoday at 7:36 AM4 repliesview on HN

Few things in Europe compare to the size of NYC. A potentially comparable project would be the Elizabeth line in London. Took from 1948 to 2008 to agree on a plan and then 15 years to execute it.


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roadbustertoday at 8:27 AM

The bill in favour of the Elizabeth Line was only put to parliament in 2005, receiving royal assent in 2008. Construction work began in 2009, faced some delays during COVID, but was completed in 2022 (total construction time: 13 years)

Construction on New York's Tunnel #3 began in 1970. It was 28 years before any part of it was operational. A second section came online 15 years later (2013). The final stage isn't expected to be completed until 2032, a full 62 years after construction began. I'm unaware of any comparable tunnel project which has progressed at this slow of a pace.

rangestransformtoday at 5:43 PM

Anglosphere construction costs are through the roof in general, same problem is happening in the UK and Canada that isn't happening to places like Spain or Japan, comparing a project to Anglosphere norms is like comparing your cooking to English food

roryirvinetoday at 9:48 AM

The Thames Tideway Tunnel might be a better comparator.

It's similar in scope to this recently-completed second phase of NYC Tunnel #3, albeit carrying sewage rather than fresh water: 25 km long, 7.2 m in diameter in London vs 29 km long, 4.9 m diameter in NYC. Flow volumes are likely similar (a sewage tunnel will rarely run full).

Planning started in 2001, with construction beginning in 2016. It opened in May 2025, at a cost of around £5bn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thames_Tideway_Tunnel

euroderftoday at 9:03 AM

Sorry. I was incompetently referring to the various rail tunneling projects under the Alps (and elsewhere I think). Several very long tunnels.

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