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01HNNWZ0MV43FFtoday at 7:39 AM7 repliesview on HN

Without regulation, money begets money and monopolies will form.

If the American voter base doesn't pull its shit together and revive democracy, we're going to have a bad century. Yesterday I met a man who doesn't vote and I wanted to go ape-shit on him. "My vote doesn't matter". Vote for mayor. Vote for city council. Vote for our House members. Vote for State Senate. Vote for our two Senators.

"Voting doesn't matter, capitalism is doomed anyway" is a self-fulling prophecy and a fed psy-op from the right. I'm so fucking sick of that attitude from my allies.


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lanyard-textiletoday at 9:40 AM

Jovially -- you simultaneously believe that they're a victim of a psy-op *and* that their attitude is self formed?

;) And you wanted to go ape shit on him... For falling for a psy-op?

My friend, morale is very very low. There is no vigor to fight for a better tomorrow in many people's hearts. Many are occupied with the problems of today. It doesn't take a psy-op to reach this level of hopelessness.

Be sick of it all you want, it doesn't change their minds. Perhaps you will find something more persuasive.

llmslave2today at 8:09 AM

This is a common sentiment but it doesn't make any sense. Voting for the wrong politician is worse than not voting at all, so why is it seen as some moral necessity for everyone to vote? If someone doesn't have enough political knowledge to vote correctly, perhaps they shouldn't vote.

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Yizahitoday at 9:43 AM

It is very likely that his vote for the parliament literally and legally doesn't matter, depending on the party allegiance of the candidates and the state he is in. All because of the non-democratic ancient first past the post system. Though in his place I would go to the station and at least deface a ballot as a sign of contempt.

sphtoday at 10:44 AM

> Without regulation, money begets money and monopolies will form.

Ahem, you'll find that with regulation, money begets money and monopolies will form. That is, unless you magically produce legislators which are incorruptible, have perfect knowledge and always make the perfect choice.

Even the Big Bang was imperfect, and matter clumps together instead of being perfectly distributed in the available space.

irjustintoday at 7:55 AM

Just so we're clear the current voter base says this is exactly how it should be.

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layer8today at 9:21 AM

The thing is that while voting matters collectively, it’s insignificant individually: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_voting

Nonvoters aren’t being irrational.

tiranttoday at 10:01 AM

What regulation are you expecting to be passed and why do you believe monopolies are bad?

If a monopoly appears due to superior offerings, better pricing and quicker innovation, I fail to see why it needs to be a bad thing. They can be competed against and historically that has always been the case.

On the other hand, monopolies appearing due to regulations, permissions, patents, or any governmental support, are indeed terrible, as they cannot be competed against.