"Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

As someone with no skin the game in either direciton, it's interesting that you're so triggered by the mere mention of someone's name.

Is it really so difficult to parse out different aspects of a person's existence, such that one could simultaneously appreciate some of the positives (the existence and success of SpaceX, making Tesla a success against the odds, [popularisation of] some engineering leadership concepts) while also acknowledging the negatives (of which, more latterly, there are many)?

Or must the sheer emotion always cloud out rational judgement?

There are lots of bubbles where Elon is still king. Those bubbles are often void of deodorant.

the value is the directness, not implied origination

not everyone cares about playing voldemort