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geremiiahlast Monday at 9:19 PM3 repliesview on HN

The risk for Tinygrad is that PyTorch will create a new backend for Inductor, plug in their AMD codegen stuff and walala, PyTorch still king. I mean, they could have easily just taken that route themselves instead of bothering with a new ML framework and AD engine. 99% of the work is just the AMD codegen part of the compiler.

Either way, super cool project and I wish them the best.


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georgehotzyesterday at 11:29 PM

tinygrad has a PyTorch frontend, we fully encourage the frontend to stay PyTorch and for them to integrate tinygrad at any level. Our mission is to commoditize the petaflop, all frontends are welcome. We also have a quite complete ONNX frontend.

kaashiftoday at 2:13 AM

> walala

Is this like voila or something else?

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ellis0nlast Monday at 9:59 PM

The main risk is that an LLM will rewrite itself and programmers will no longer be needed. I worked a bit with tinygrad and it looks quite amusing I managed to run it right away and make fixes in one of the tasks, but I decided not to commit because I was afraid of rejection. For example, the tasks are strange: $500 for two months, optimizing H.265, something that only a small group of people in the world can do.

The SV is a unique place where you can meet Geo and get $5M, maintain a bunch of hardware, build a framework in 20,000 LOC and everything works well.