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sphlast Tuesday at 6:48 AM4 repliesview on HN

I like her take-away from this experiment:

Vincent stated that, after the experiment, she gained more sympathy for the male condition: "Men are suffering. They have different problems than women have, but they don't have it better. They need our sympathy, they need our love, and they need each other more than anything else. They need to be together."

I respect that, compared to the arguments that sex A is having a better time than B, or that one needs more support and focus than the other. We’re all in the same, but different, shit.


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philipallstarlast Tuesday at 10:19 AM

I agree with that, although a giant amount of support and attention is one way, the sexes are going through different stuff into terms of the meta-problem of "how our problems are viewed".

pessimizerlast Tuesday at 5:18 PM

> We’re all in the same, but different, shit.

We are not. This is the law of averages and is absolute poison. Sexism is not symmetrical. Men do not suffer from women like women suffer from men.

Norah Vincent killed herself.

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jrflowerslast Tuesday at 10:13 AM

> We’re all in the same, but different, shit.

Can you elaborate on other cases where the words “different” and “same” are interchangeable?

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jpsterlast Tuesday at 10:01 AM

> They have different problems than women have, but they don't have it better.

How can I agree with this? Material conditions matter: whatever problem you have, being poorer will make it worse. Women have been earning less than men for decades, and most highly paid execs are men, not women. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/03/01/the-end...

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