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yjftsjthsd-hlast Tuesday at 5:07 PM5 repliesview on HN

> The Abit BP6 was legendary with enthusiasts because it let them make a dual CPU system with cheap Celeron CPUs.

And 2 celerons were cheaper than a CPU with double the performance?


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ckozlowskilast Tuesday at 5:35 PM

Yes, because there weren't really CPUs then that had double the performance.

Celeron CPUs were usually CPUs that shared the same core architecture as the current Pentium standard, but often had a lower core clock speed, lower core memory speed, and/or had smaller L2 caches.

Workloads have different constraints however, and simply doubling cache, clock speed, or memory bandwidth doesn't necessarily double performance, especially when running more than one application at once. Keep in mind, this is Windows 98 /NT/2000 era here.

Symmetric multi-processing (SMP) could be of huge benefit however, far more than simple doubling any of the above factors. Running two threads at once was unheard of on the desktop. These were usually reserved for higher-binned parts, like full-fledged Pentium workstations and Xeons (usually the latter.) But Abit's board gave users a taste of that capability on a comparative budget. Were two cheaper than a single fast CPU? Probably not in all cases (depends on speeds). But Abit's board gave users an option in between a single fast Pentium and a orders of magnitude more professional workstation: A pair of cheaper CPUs for desktop SMP. And that was in reach of more people.

In short, two Celerons were probably more expensive than a single fast Pentium, but having SMP meant being able to run certain workloads faster or more workloads at once at a time when any other SMP system would have cost tons.

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ThrowawayR2last Tuesday at 5:29 PM

Just by the release MSRP:

2x Celeron 366 MHz @ $123 each - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Celeron_processo...

1x Pentium III 733 MHz @ $776 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Pentium_III_proc...

And that's assuming that performance scales linearly with clock frequency (which it doesn't).

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SirFattylast Tuesday at 5:22 PM

You could over-clock the Celeron and get even more performance. Both the slot-1 and ZIF style...

rcontilast Tuesday at 5:37 PM

For some reason you left off the part that explains that the Celeron had a PII core.

> Socket 370 era Celeron processors had a Pentium II core, but Intel disabled the ability to change the multiplier to discourage overclocking

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rifficlast Tuesday at 5:23 PM

they may have been, yes. back in those days, a CPU with multiple cores were meant for the server or enterprise workstation market and priced accordingly.

Celerons were consumer-grade budget kit.

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