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zahlmanlast Tuesday at 7:25 PM0 repliesview on HN

Fair.

The way I teach, I would start there; then you always have it as a fallback, and understand the system better.

I generally sort users into aspirants who really should learn those things (and will benefit from it), vs. complete end users who just want the code to run (for whom the developer should be expected to provide, if they expect to gain such a following).