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aurareturntoday at 8:16 AM3 repliesview on HN

There is clearly a very strong moat. OpenAI is close to 1 billion active users on ChatGPT while Claude barely have any non-business users. Even though Anthropic had better models at different times this year, I never stopped using ChatGPT and paying for Plus.

We just don't know who will win in which area yet. It doesn't mean there is no moat.


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scoopertroopertoday at 9:22 AM

I don’t think it’s a question of moat. The usage limits on the chat interface with the more advanced Claud models are brutal. I feel like I can barely start a conversation before I get shutdown. However, I switched over to Gemini almost completely and barely ever checkin with ChatGPT these days.

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shaky-carrouseltoday at 8:56 AM

OpenAI has close to 1 billion users which are mostly free users and will switch provider the moment OpenAI start charging them or adding ads. Which they will, as OpenAI themselves said they are losing money even with 200$ subs. So that amount of users is pretty meaningless.

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ashirviskastoday at 8:55 AM

I did, moved off to Claude in 2024 and many others around me did the same. Do you have data for non-business claim besides anecdotal evidence?

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