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vjvjvjvjghvtoday at 3:41 PM6 repliesview on HN

"Rome said the companies seem to be maximizing prices while negotiating discounts behind the scenes with health and drug insurers and then setting yet another price for direct-to-consumer cash-pay sales."

This describes the biggest problem in US healthcare. No clear and consistent pricing. If we had a real market, you would get a prescription and then go to the seller with the lowest price. And everybody would get the same price. This whole business with PBMs that are owned by the insurance companies, discount cards and other shenanigans just invites corruption.


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Workaccount2today at 4:06 PM

Last year I needed to get blood work done, some of which may or may not be covered.

It took me two weeks, dozens of phone calls, and multiple "escalations" to learn what would be covered and what the price would be if it wasn't

Totally insane. The kicker is that after all that, the price I was billed wasn't even the price I was given (thankfully it was less though).

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giantg2today at 4:27 PM

"And everybody would get the same price. This whole business with PBMs that are owned by the insurance companies, discount cards and other shenanigans just invites corruption."

It's hard to say that it isn't racketeering at this point.

"Specifically, a racket was defined by this coinage as being a service that calls forth its own demand, and would not have been needed otherwise."

There's demand for the meds, but the demand for discount cards, forcing people to use specific services/companies, and related programs is all invented by the companies themselves.

Uvixtoday at 4:05 PM

Health insurance in general is the problem; PBMs/discount cards are just a cherry on top. Insurance is fundamentally incompatible with clear and consistent pricing.

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dylan604today at 4:48 PM

> "Rome said the companies seem to be maximizing prices while negotiating discounts behind the scenes with health and drug insurers and then setting yet another price for direct-to-consumer cash-pay sales."

This sounds like typical negotiating 101. You know you are going to be forced to lower from your starting position, so increase your starting position so when you do negotiate down you are closer to where you wanted to be.

angarg12today at 4:45 PM

As a european living in the US, the idea there is a market at all is laughable. I tried to get price quotes for treatments several time just to get a "well, it's hard to say" or "it's very complicated".

weslleyskahtoday at 4:26 PM

Here in Brazil, we have something called 'Genéricos.' These are essentially the same medications as the brand-name versions, produced with the same chemical ingredients, but they often cost half the price, sometimes even cheaper than that.

Insanely comical.

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