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bevr1337last Wednesday at 5:40 PM6 repliesview on HN

> Gifts do not confer obligation.

Remind me, which Ferengi Rule of Acquisition is this?

There's not much argument to be had. You've created a logical justification for a myopic, misanthropic world view.

> My friend bought me lunch. I used that energy at my job. Do I owe them part of my paycheck?

Many find reciprocation important in a relationship.


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not_a_bot_4sholast Wednesday at 6:36 PM

> Remind me, which Ferengi Rule of Acquisition is this?

You made my morning with this quip.

somenameformelast Wednesday at 7:27 PM

How about #59: "Free advice is seldom cheap." Because you're basically saying that there's no such thing as free, and it's simply an 'unclarified financial contract to be consolidated at a later time.' Quark would approve! If I'm paying for a friend's lunch it's because I want to, not because I expect anything from him in the future. And beyond that, I do not consider downloading something somebody has released for free as establishing a relationship.

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nu11ptrlast Wednesday at 9:38 PM

> You've created a logical justification for a myopic, misanthropic world view.

Nobody said it wouldn't be nice, but that it does not confer "obligation". This is the key word. I would argue a world where people do things because they want to, and not because they feel they have to, would actually generally be a nicer world to live in.

> Many find reciprocation important in a relationship.

Yes, and those sorts of relationships aren't really built on much if a gift obligates the other to repay. Why even buy lunch then? It just becomes this back and forth obligation and it is wearing and actually erodes the relationship slightly, if anything. I would argue a true gift is one that does not obligate the other party to reciprocate. That does NOT mean it would not be a decent thing to do something nice (for the other person OR someone else), but just that it is not obligated. The person should not feel a weight to do so. Once this weight is lifted, it is actually very freeing, and it strengthens the relationship, if anything.

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throw10920yesterday at 5:24 AM

> There's not much argument to be had.

Yes, there's no argument because you're incapable of coming up with an argument because you don't have anything to base it on. You're just responding emotionally and trying to slander them because you know that they made a good point and you hate that.

> You've created a logical justification for a myopic, misanthropic world view.

It is neither. It is a quite reasonable worldview that the vast majority of the population subscribes to and finds rather acceptable.

> Many find reciprocation important in a relationship.

This is a non-answer, because you know that the answer is "no", but you can't bear to say it because that would be admitting that your position is inconsistent, yet you can't assert that the answer is "yes" because that's obviously insane.

Thank you for so eloquently refuting all of your own arguments.

Ygg2last Wednesday at 7:09 PM

> Remind me, which Ferengi Rule of Acquisition is this?

Never spend more for an acquisition than you have to.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Rules_of_Acquisition

xnxyesterday at 9:43 AM

If there's an obligation, then it want really a gift.