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borskilast Wednesday at 6:52 PM1 replyview on HN

What’s more likely? That they were banned due to misunderstandings of what these devices are, or that they were banned they are “causing a disturbance”? Can you find an example of such a case? I’m not sure why this feels so important to defend.

There are several definitions of security, but the most relevant (in this context) are:

1. the state of being protected against or safe from danger or threat.

2. the safety of a state or organization against criminal activity such as terrorism, theft, or espionage.

3. procedures followed or measures taken to ensure the safety of a state or organization.

I fail to see how these devices fall into those definitions. I also don’t see how beach balls do either.

So if your argument is changing to: it isn’t security, but rather preventing people from getting in each other’s way (large signs, strollers, beach balls) I once again don’t see how that applies.

I agree those items have nothing to do with security either.


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kube-systemlast Wednesday at 7:45 PM

I'm not changing anything -- my root comment in this thread specifically mentioned "disturbances". Mitigating disturbances to the proceedings of an event is plainly a part of event security. The "threats" evaluated in event security are not solely to life and limb but also to the proceedings of the event itself. I didn't think this required elaboration; I thought most people would be familiar with this function of event security.

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