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toomanyrichiestoday at 6:06 AM4 repliesview on HN

> Plenty of people are happier with nicer things.

Are they truly happier, in the sense of being more content? Or are they just deriving more temporary pleasure from the hedonic treadmill they're on?

You can probably tell which one it is, by how long their happiness with their house / car / TV / fill-in-the-blank lasts, before they start thinking about trading up to an even nicer fill-in-the-blank.

Buddhist monk Matthieu Ricard wrote a great book on happiness, here's an excerpt I enjoy which talks about the difference between pleasure and happiness, in two parts. [1] [2]

1. https://www.matthieuricard.org/en/pleasure-and-happiness-the...

2. https://www.matthieuricard.org/en/pleasure-and-happiness-the...


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pm90today at 6:42 AM

This is a deeply personal decision and I categorically reject any kind of moralization around frugality.

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bryanrasmussentoday at 8:35 AM

Maslow's hierarchy of needs would assume that there is a point beyond which extra material comfort does not make you happy or content, but it also is quite clear that there is a point at up to which it does. Most books on happiness are written for people who are long past the point where increasing their monetary inputs will increase their happiness and contentment, but it is also clear those people exist and are perhaps even in the majority of humanity.

matwoodtoday at 1:23 PM

> Are they truly happier, in the sense of being more content?

The biggest thing anyone can do in their life is figure out exactly what makes them happy, and spend their money there. Don't let society tell you. People on this site likely care about computers and spend a disproportionate amount of their money on them, and that's ok. I don't care about cars or TVs, but I care about experiences and comfort so will spend money on travel and upgraded plane tickets.

I also care about agency, so tend to save money rather than spend. I want the freedom it provides more than what it can buy - typically.

nltoday at 11:27 AM

I really don't like this moralizing but more importantly there's increasing evidence that wealth does correlate with life satisfaction.

> The data showed the happiness gap between wealthy and middle-income participants was wider than between middle- and low-income participants.

And the apparent reason:

> He said: “A greater feeling of control over life can explain about 75% of the association between money and happiness. So I think a big part of what’s happening is that, when people have more money, they have more control over their lives. More freedom to live the life they want to live.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/18/mone...

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