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greggoByesterday at 5:03 PM7 repliesview on HN

Your entire comment reads a bit like an ad for Chinese cars, conveniently omitting the damage these automakers are doing to the global car industry by dumping cheap supply wherever they can to secure market share, all enabled by heavy state subsidies. [0]

> PS to Canadians: You could be paying ~50% less for the same car, even same model to same model by allowing Chinese made cars in and it'd help you screw over a country that threatened you.

Because given the chance, China 100% would never do the same (or worse).

[0] https://www.csis.org/blogs/trustee-china-hand/chinese-ev-dil...


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runakoyesterday at 5:21 PM

> dumping cheap supply wherever they can to secure market share, all enabled by heavy state subsidies

Assuming for a moment this is more true for China than for other countries. Why would the average Canadian prefer to pay more for their next car versus having a similar car subsidized by the Chinese taxpayer? Most Canadians do not work in the auto industry. Further, the protectionism practiced in the EU/US/Canada is not likely to be successful long-term, meaning those auto industries are doomed.

Best path forward is to let in competition, make the domestics stronger, and let consumers get cheaper cars in the meanwhile. Provide some additional temporary support if necessary. (This is more or less how the US absorbed Japanese and then Korean cars.)

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didibusyesterday at 5:51 PM

I feel like closing off access is a bad long term strategy. Instead of being forced to compete and match or outmatch competition Canadian manufacturing can get complacent and lean on restrictions. But the whole thing feels like a ticking bomb.

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seydoryesterday at 5:19 PM

it's not like cars are necessities like food. and i doubt these companies are unprofitable - the chinese govt has no incentive to provide the world with free cars.

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interactivecodeyesterday at 5:09 PM

Are the big capitalist car companies scared of some strong competition? Maybe they should innovate instead of lobby against international competition

swarnieyesterday at 5:10 PM

Lets assume all this is true, why should i be concerned about it?

If the Chinese tax payer is going to help me buy a new car then thanks, my own government isn't going to do that.

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shimmanyesterday at 5:51 PM

I'm not really seeing the issue with this. Capitalists will tell you this is a good thing because consumers will benefit, or is that only capitalism if it benefits the American elites?

Why should I care that the CEO of Ford is struggling when he pays his workers so terrible? If they want another government bail it, we should just nationalize the industry and implement workplace democracy for the staff so they can be accountable to the workers + people in some fashion.

But yeah, it's sad seeing the demise of US liberalism but what do you expect when the last 50 years was naked imperialism for corporations while denying any social responsibility for the country?

Alconiconyesterday at 6:16 PM

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