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MaxPockyesterday at 9:11 PM7 repliesview on HN

Europe believes that Russia is doing all sorts of bad things and there's also the belief that Moscow plans to invade the EU .

Isn't the logical action for EU to launch massive pre-emptive strikes on this big bad country that hates the western way of life ?


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TulliusCiceroyesterday at 10:17 PM

> Isn't the logical action for EU to launch massive pre-emptive strikes

To be clear, strikes wouldn't be "pre-emptive", Russia is already in a war, and it's entirely allowed for any nation to join the side of Ukraine. None of the rules of war prevent helping a friendly country by joining the fight.

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eptcykayesterday at 9:15 PM

I don’t believe the leadership sees Russia as an existential threat in Brussels. Baltics and Poland see it differently.

A pre-emptive strike would be expensive and immediately retcon into making Putin be the good guy - he’s long said NATO is the aggressor. Best to make invading EU to be too expensive to be worth it.

I think the bigger risk currently that Europe faces is the low and mid level corruption where Russian agents extend their tendrils into government structures in EU.

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kspacewalk2yesterday at 9:16 PM

It's not about "hating the western way of life" or any such silliness. They can hate whatever they want within their internationally recognized borders.

War is best prevented by robust deterrents. When it comes to belligerent fascist regimes who want to see how far you can be pushed, not responding to provocations and aggression forcefully makes larger-scale war more likely in the future.

TulliusCiceroyesterday at 10:15 PM

The logical thing to do is respond proportionally: if the ships are deliberately damaging property, seize the ships, and imprison the offenders.

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luke5441yesterday at 9:19 PM

We have functional democracies here. You'd have to convince the population this is the right course of action and then the politicians will do it.

Good luck with that, though.

ForHackernewsyesterday at 9:17 PM

No, pre-emptively starting another war is not a good idea. But yes, the West should work hard to make sure their enemy loses the war it has already started.

belteryesterday at 9:19 PM

> Isn't the logical action for EU to launch massive pre-emptive strikes on this big bad country that hates the western way of life ?

Depending on the days, the priority changes, between Russia or attacking the US first, maybe with the help from Canada :-))

You have to deal with one threat at a time, and it seems the fight against chlorinated chicken will take priority for now... :-)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/12/17/trump-demands...