Wow your response is really not rational. Try to actually write a non emotional response and you should be able to see OP is saying basic logical things only. I am always amazed how people on HN quickly lose all self awareness when discussing politics or things they really care about emotionally.
Except of course that they are not saying 'basic logical things only' but are making up dumb examples.
The rest of your comment does not deserve an answer.
> people on HN
I think it's just "people" (independent of website, nationality...)