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jacquesmyesterday at 6:35 PM1 replyview on HN

> Would the US not be forced to react in some way if a pro-china party took over in Canada with the help of chinese influence?

This sets you up for saying 'no'

> And China had the goal of integrating Canada into its military alliance?

And this denies Canada the right to engage into treaties.

Neither of which has any bearing on the topic and on actual reality, there is no 'pro china' party in Canada and even if there was the US would not be 'forced to react'. It probably would react but it would not be forced to do so.

So this all just muddies the water by 'just asking questions'. We should stick to reality rather than engaging in positioning strawmen for the express purpose of taking them down, we have an actual war going on right now with a belligerent that is committing warc rimes by the hundreds on a daily basis and which was started on the pretext of another sovereign nation being a threat when that clearly wasn't the case.

That is the topic (see title). Besides that, the hypothetical does not stand even in principle because the US has been the aggressor in very recent history.

So I'm not just arguing against the comparison, I'm questioning the value of making such comparisons in principle because they are just attempts at sowing discord without any basis in fact. If you see it differently then you're welcome that.


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anonymarsyesterday at 9:02 PM

I think there is value in treating other actors with some semblance of rationality and using that to gain insight into how one might deal with them, rather than considering them fully sui generis.

For example it would be a similar mistake to think that the recent swing in US politics is a uniquely American phenomenon to which one's own population is inherently immune.

If instead one thinks, maybe we're not so different after all, perhaps one may better understand how better to deal with it.

Especially if the alternatives are, "we just need to get rid of the bad people" or "I guess there's no hope for a better world"

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