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alt227last Friday at 7:49 PM8 repliesview on HN

IPv6 was superceded by NAT a long time ago. It will die a slw and quiet death which is why it is now being ignored by training facilities and experts worldwide.


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lxgrlast Friday at 10:31 PM

Oh no, somebody should warn all the ISPs deploying IPv6-native connections with v4 reachable over some fallback technology (464XLAT, DS-Lite, NAT64 etc.) to their hundreds of millions if not billions of customers!

--Sent from my IPv6

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DrewADesignlast Friday at 8:17 PM

Digital Ocean didn’t even have an ipv6 address on by default in the droplet I created last week. It’s just a switch to flip, but I’ll bet the support costs of hobbyists/enthusiasts not realizing they needed to also write firewall rules, make sure ports weren’t open for databases and things like that for ipv6.

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tjohnslast Friday at 10:09 PM

NAT doesn't solve everything, and creates a whole new class of problems that you can just avoid by adopting IPv6 natively. And it's definitely not being ignored at larger companies.

In particular, just off the top of my head...

- T-Mobile US doesn't even assign clients an IPv4 address anymore. Their entire network is IPv6 native.

- Many cloud providers charge extra for IPv4 addresses, but give IPv6 addresses out for free.

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nine_klast Friday at 8:35 PM

This is not even funny to read, given huge networks like T-Mobile USA being IPv6-only.

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MBCooklast Friday at 7:52 PM

It was?

Isn’t it what all the cell phones networks use these days? And most ISP’s?

They may hand the end user device a IPv4 address but don’t they actually use IPv6?

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apatheticonionlast Friday at 9:46 PM

AWS charges for ipv4 addresses but ipv6 addresses are free. ipv4 with NAT doesn't supercede ipv6, it just extends its life.

anon7000last Friday at 8:26 PM

What are you even basing that on? Here are some facts:

- You have to pay money to get a static IPv4 address for cloud machines on eg AWS. Anything needing a static IPv4 will cost more and more as demand increases. NAT doesn’t exactly fix that.

- Mainstream IoT protocols have a hard dependency on IPv6 (eg Matter/Thread). Not to mention plenty of 5g deployments.

- Many modern networks quietly use IPv6 internally. I mean routing is simpler without NAT.

So it almost definitely won’t die. It’s more likely it’ll slowly and quietly continue growing behind the scenes, even if consumers are still seeing IPv4 on their home networks.

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