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kelthuzadyesterday at 11:38 PM1 replyview on HN

Why are you switching to your main account to defend your alt? You write in the exact same unreasonable style where you refuse to understand simple statements.

>I dunno, man. It's claiming a literal conspiracy between Google and Firefox to make Firefox worse. In reality, it's an outlandish proposition because Google already holds such high market share for Chrome, they need Firefox as a viable competitor to avoid antitrust concerns. The idea that they'd contractually (or behind-closed-doors) engage in hobbling Firefox is fantasy territory -- literally conspiracy theorizing. Because of the huge legal and financial risks that would entail if ever discovered. So, when something's an actual conspiracy theory, it's right to call it out as such.

The definition of a conspiracy is "a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful", and since both Google and Mozilla are public companies, his simple statement of "_Maybe_ part of their agreement is to not implement some features because it would compete with Chrome. _I don't really know_, and I don't really care what Firefox does or doesn't do." is not even remotely the distorted version from which you've created that straw man which you're now shadowboxing against. That's exactly the style of arguing in which you've been engaging in with your alt account.

>I'm Ctrl+F-ing here through troupo's comments and not seeing anything like that. Their points seem perfectly reasonable, that Firefox also doesn't implement these features, and therefore Apple's actions might be very reasonably explained as having the same genuine reasons.

Amusing, so you think that the "arguments" you have been making with your alt account are "perfectly reasonable" - who would have thought.

>It looks like you're the one imagining conspiracies in Apple's behavior -- "that motivates every single one of their decisions"

Again, you fail to understand and apply the word "conspiracy" properly, because all of my statements are based on publicly verifiable facts, trying to hastily smear that as conspiracy is exactly what you have been doing with your alt account already, so you had to use your main account to feign neutrality, but you failed again.

These observations have also been made by many other people in tech:

infrequently.org/2025/09/apples-antitrust-playbook

ericmigi.com/blog/apple-restricts-pebble-from-being-awesome-with-iphones

Even the American government itself has observed and documented Apple's anti-competitive business practices, for which the Department of Justice has even sued Apple:

"Justice Department Sues Apple for Monopolizing Smartphone Markets - Apple’s Broad-Based, Exclusionary Conduct Makes It Harder for Americans to Switch Smartphones, Undermines Innovation for Apps, Products, and Services, and Imposes Extraordinary Costs on Developers, Businesses, and Consumers: https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-s...

You know very well, that your usage of "conspiracy" is an act of smearing, but as a dedicated Apple propagandist, you obviously are more interested in manipulating conversations with deceptive rhetoric and roleplaying with your alt account.

> And you're the one using incredibly insulting and inappropriate language. It seems to be your comments that have a lot of inappropriate tone for HN, which is presumably why I see a lot of them downvoted. Maybe you should think about whether this is really the best way to engage here, maybe re-read the HN guidelines?

You're projecting, it's you who has been using insulting and inappropriate language, plus you're using alt accounts to roleplay as "neutral" third party, so take your own advice and re-read the HN guidelines. Regarding "downvotes"? My net positive upvote score increased in this thread despite you double downvoting with your main and alt account, so your biased analysis failed again. You ain't fooling anybody.


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crazygringotoday at 1:27 AM

> Why are you switching to your main account to defend your alt?

Buddy, your sense of reality is warped if you think two accounts making similar arguments have to be the same person. They're not.

But have fun imagining whatever you want. Conspiracies are everywhere, I guess, if you have that kind of mindset...

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