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dekrglast Saturday at 7:09 AM13 repliesview on HN

It will be pretty amusing to watch all those westerners who, not so long ago, were talking about "rules based order" pretend nothing is happening or to justify it.


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ncallawaylast Saturday at 7:21 AM

As a westerner, who believes in the rules based order, I would give anything for our leadership which is launching this illegal war to be sent to the Hague.

Our leadership are war criminals, and should be treated as such.

Some, specifically, are war criminals who have committed crimes that carry the death penalty, and should be arrested, tried, and (if found guilty) executed.

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DrBazzalast Saturday at 1:22 PM

Well, 'western' 'rules based order' involves democratic elections and being in 166th place for government transparency isn't a good sign. Appointing your successor isn't exactly democratic, in fact it's very much the sign of most countries that end in dictatorship:

"Chavez was elected to a third term in October 2012. However, he was never sworn in due to medical complications; he died in March 2013.[95] Nicolás Maduro was picked by Chavez as his successor, appointing him vice president in 2013."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela#Bolivarian_governmen...

TheAlchemistlast Saturday at 8:17 AM

Some certainly will, but not many I think. There are very few westerners outside of the US, who want to have anything to do with what the US are doing now.

tguvotlast Saturday at 8:12 AM

Going back 7 months: Germany’s Merz says Israel is doing the ‘dirty work for all of us’ by countering Iran

In this case probably attitude is probably similar

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JumpCrisscrosslast Saturday at 7:36 AM

> all those westerners who, not so long ago, were talking about "rules based order" pretend nothing is happening or to justify it

MAGA is a rejection of the international rules-based order. Trump joins Putin and Xi in explicitly rejecting it. To the extent anyone in America is calling for a return to that order, they're doing it while criticising Trump.

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tdecklast Saturday at 12:36 PM

If the last 2 years of Gaza genocide didn't do that, I'm n not sure why this would. They'll spend the first 20 minutes talking about how bad Maduro is and the next 5 minutes saying this is "misguided" and didn't go through the proper channels.

coffeebeqnlast Saturday at 12:30 PM

Rules based order has always only applied to small and medium countries. The UN Security Council does whatever the hell they want

potsandpanslast Saturday at 7:19 AM

It's unreal.

realusernamelast Saturday at 7:26 AM

I don't think Trump ever cared about rules based order.

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jennyholzer3last Saturday at 1:49 PM

"rules based order" means putting people with dark skin in handcuffs on TV

adwnlast Saturday at 7:46 AM

No idea what you're going on about. Those in the West who stand for a rules-based international order certainly didn't ask for this war, and Trump, who did start this war, never gave a shit about rules or norms, international or otherwise.

nutjob2last Saturday at 8:53 AM

Trump hardly is a representative for "westerners", actually the majority of them think he's a lawless looney. No one outside of his administration or party is justifying his actions.

Your comment is just bigotry.

basiswordlast Saturday at 12:38 PM

Rapist presidents have no authority to defend 'rules based order'. Were you also ok with him defending 'rules based order' by arming Israel as they committed genocide? Or when he committed war crimes by blowing up the boats over the last few months?