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kyprolast Saturday at 1:02 PM4 repliesview on HN

That's good to hear. As a European, I do hope our leaders keep this in mind... It may be an unconventional move, but it's hard to argue this is a bad outcome.

I get the concern about forever wars some are raising, but this clearly isn't going to be a forever war for the reasons you state. Plus if the US secures some oil and the Venezuela people get to live better lives, that's ultimately a great outcome for everyone.

It's controversial to say these days, but I think this is exactly how the West should be using it's military force – to promote democracy and freedom around the world.


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hvb2last Saturday at 1:11 PM

> I get the concern about forever wars some are raising, but this clearly isn't going to be a forever war for the reasons you state. Plus if the US secures some oil

Why would the US be entitled to any oil here? And how would that be a good outcome for the people of Venezuela?

> and the Venezuela people get to live better lives, that's ultimately a great outcome for everyone.

That's a big if. Ask the Iraqis how well it went when their dictator was gone. And that was with boots on the ground not just leaving a power vacuum like this.

> It's controversial to say these days, but I think this is exactly how the West should be using it's military force – to promote democracy and freedom around the world.

Wait a few decades till China does this to you and we'll see how you feel.

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joseda-hglast Saturday at 2:01 PM

A forever war implies people in the ground that actually would want to resist, and barring conscription (Which will be limited, because diaspora) I don't see how that could actually work

Check social media or go ask a trusted Venezuelan / Latino, happiest I've ever seen the community, because regardless of what's comming, it looks like the light at the end of a tunnel

hoppplast Saturday at 1:06 PM

And bomb civilians?

the_aflast Saturday at 4:20 PM

> Plus if the US secures some oil and the Venezuela people get to live better lives, that's ultimately a great outcome for everyone.

Agreed about the better lives, but has it come to a point we accept invading other countries to "secure their oil" is a great outcome? I mean, what is this, Hitler's "Operation Blue"?

Securing oil is NOT a valid reason to invade countries. Does this need to be said!? Mind boggling.

This is peak cynicism. I'm really surprised to read some opinions here.

Next up: "imperialism wasn't bad, securing a big empire with colonies is a great outcome".