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IG_Semmelweisslast Saturday at 2:25 PM3 repliesview on HN

You are 100% right in all your assertions, and still miss the point.

I'm in agreement with everything you said, but none of it applies.

The US (or any other country) should never intervene due to a "bad person" or "illegitimate" or "dictator"

Instead, US intervened because the policies of Maduro directly led to the flight of 8M causing harms to many countries in LATAM, and US.

If a dictator was not actively enforcing policies that made foreign innocent (bystanders!) neighbors hurt or destitute, then your argument would apply

It was not a war bullet that have killed random Chileans, or Ecuadoreans or Americans. But nevertheless, there have been hundreds of venezuelan bullets (and drugs) kiling everyday civilians. The act of aggression exists (exporting hardened criminals and economic destitutes abroad) .

That was the casus belli. The US just happened to respond in force, when other countries couldn't.


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baubinolast Saturday at 2:33 PM

I’m not disputing the right of the U.S. to intervene. I’m saying that we should call this “intervention” what it is — an act of war. It doesn’t matter what the cause or impetus for the act is; we need to stop pretending that forceful, military-based aggression into sovereign land (regardless of who the leader of that land is) is anything other than an act of war.

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_alternator_last Saturday at 2:42 PM

Even if we grant your arguments, it’s congress that has the power to declare war for a casus belli, not the President.

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immibislast Saturday at 2:56 PM

If the USA killed 8M of its own citizens (which did happen) should Brazil kidnap Trump?

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