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dnautics01/03/20264 repliesview on HN

eh, germany and japan seemed to go okay, grenada too. korea kind of a mixed bag (it took decades for it to not suck)


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skippyboxedhero01/03/2026

Korea, by what metric? South Korea was through the 50 poorer than North Korea, North Korea was considered the roaring growth economy, huge success of planning and leadership.

Park Chung Hee took a country that could not be a functional democracy, provided leadership and put it onto the path of economic success. Iirc, the reduction in poverty through that period is the fastest in human history (when you consider that China, that is an incredible statement).

I think people (still) assume both that democracy is superior economically for every situation and that people who don't have any food care about being unable to vote...neither of these things is obviously true. Indeed, in the latter case, we now have a good test case of poor countries adopting democracy early and they have generally not been successful as power rotates between various quasi-dictators who give massive handouts to the poor to retain power (without doing anything actually useful).

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FireBeyond01/03/2026

Crediting the US for Germany's post-WWII transition is a bit of a stretch. There were quite a few more players involved.

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swiftcoder01/03/2026

> grenada too

Grenada is something of a joke in this context - the entire thing came about because the communist government fell apart and started fighting internally, so it's pretty likely the regime would have shortly collapsed with or without the invasion

tracerbulletx01/03/2026

The scale of investment and commitment was orders of magnitude larger, as was the utter devastation inflicted for years before hand. Incomparable.