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jmyeetlast Saturday at 5:29 PM6 repliesview on HN

I'm old enough that I grew up (well) before 9/11. Many in my age bracket will describe the 90s as the last great decade. I feel sad for those who are younger who never experienced that world, the world between the Cold War and the War on Terror.

It was a time when you could walk up to the gate in an airport before the TSA. A lot of younger people don't realize that's how it actually was. They think it's one of those things made up for movies.

Houses were cheap. Rent was cheap. Cars were cheap. Gas was cheap. Food was cheap. A friend of mine had college buddies who shared a 4 bedroom house in Iowa for $175/month. Not each. Total. I rented a 2 bedroom apartment close to a train and the city center for a little over $200/month. I lived as a student just fine on $200/week (in 1995), including paying for rent. My degree cost me about $10,000.

The other side of that was the Cold War when we lived under the constant threat of nuclear annihilation. I think this was generationally traumatic to people who grew up in the 50s (way before my time) but by the 80s? It wwas like background noise.

There was a lot of optimism with the fall of the Soviet Union and Eastern Union. On reflection, much later, I think this was terrible for the world. When the USSR existed as a counter to the US, the US was forced to at least do something for its citizens. The Red Scare destroyed collectivism and the US does things like the War on Terror now and, well, capturing the Venezuelan president, with complete impunity. They're open about it too: it's for oil. A handful of billionaires will get richer as a result of this.

The Big Lebowski is, to me, the most 90s movie of all time and it just gets better with age. Oh, the output of HOllywood in general was amazing in the 1990s. At that time I used to go see movies once or even twice a week. There was always something good on. Goodfellas and Terminator 2 spring to mind.

There just seemed to be more hope then. Now? I feel for anyone who was born after 2000. Crippled with debt with limited prospects of any kind of security. It's just so different to how it was.

EDIT: qualified that the $200/week figure was in 1995, not the 1980s. That's like $430 in today's money by the same inflation calculator.


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mkleczeklast Saturday at 6:16 PM

I am Polish and I was 15 in 1990 when the Berlin Wall fell.

Lately I was thinking if it was only me or my fellow Poles remembering 90s as times of freedom and hope.

Thanks for confirming it is much wider experience and memory.

nulloremptylast Saturday at 6:01 PM

yes, i can relate to that. everything went down-the-fucking-hill since then.

but let's not forget the war in Yugoslavia – even in the best of times there were wars.

sumedhlast Monday at 5:33 AM

> the world between the Cold War and the War on Terror.

Wasnt US involved in Iraq and Bosnia? ( I dont want to google it)

> When the USSR existed as a counter to the US

The new counter is China, the US seems to be taking AI seriously, they dont want China to win.

Etherytelast Saturday at 5:59 PM

Important to note here that the $200/week figure from 80s is the same as $830/week today due to inflation [0]. Rent and degrees specifically have gone up a ridiculous amount, yes, but as far as the rest of it goes, most students today would jump at the opportunity of having that much disposable income.

[0] https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

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treslast Saturday at 6:02 PM

I believe the Jesus Jones song, "Right Here, Right Now" has become an ironic commentary on Gen X; in that brief moment in the 90's when we thought the nuclear sword of Damocles dangling over all of us had finally been cut down...

Not a great song, but one that expresses the zeitgeist in a pretty succinct way.

We thought that we were at the cusp of a new era... one where we could overcome the injustices of the past and author a future based on the best version of ourselves.

In the end, Gen X never even got a chance to start; we watched from the sidelines as geriatric Boomers clung (and still cling) to power -- leaving less and less of that (ever more naive) dream behind.

"Right here, right now,

there's no other place I'd rather be.

Right here, right now,

watching the world wake up from history."

The song hasn't aged well & has become a cloy reminder of that time and what we didn't become.

hexbin010last Saturday at 6:19 PM

90s Hollywood was immense man. With you there!