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mytailorisrichlast Saturday at 5:52 PM4 repliesview on HN

Perhaps people forget that countries are sovereign and can do whatever they want. The "global order" has always been based on strength: the stronger do what they want and the weaker do what they can.

What the US have just done is not something new because of Trump.

We are told about "international law" and "norms" so much that we perhaps forget that this is mostly BS.


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bloppelast Saturday at 6:18 PM

This is the attitude that permits world wars. In the aftermath of WW2, a lot of people genuinely believed in the power of international law to prevent WW3. Now, it seems like a ton of people think that's just BS, and the fact that so many people think that is what makes it BS. If a strong majority of people actually believed in international law, it would be "real".

I guess sometimes you just need WW3.

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jopsenlast Saturday at 9:43 PM

You forget that the cold war wasn't won by the US alone. But by the alliance systems which centered around the US.

The US is no longer a credible partner, and without coalition forces the recreational wars in the 2000s would have been a lot less "fun".

I'm not so sure you want a global order based on strength. You don't want small countries with little to loose arming do with nukes. But voting for it is suddenly very attractive.

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Braxton1980last Saturday at 6:18 PM

The conversation is about what's right

vaylianlast Saturday at 6:16 PM

People commit crimes despite it being illegal. That doesn't make laws "BS".

And yes, this is not something new. It is something old. It is something that we have left behind us and Donald Trump should therefore be condemned.

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