The US literary attacked a country and captured its leader. They always have a double standard.

This is still not fully supported by law. It is becoming normalized indeed, especially by the current admin. Let's hope this is not going to become widely used or that it doesn't stay permanently, eg. it gets at least restricted to some type of crime by future administrations.

China is already doing abominable things; how people react to additional surveillance is always related to what the state is actually doing with that information.

So a system that supports the abduction of polital rivals (an actual human rights violation) is not the same as a system that supports the lawful arrest of someone breaking a law that's accepted as part of a democracy.

I also think the scale of investment plays a part, the investment in surveillance in China is absurd. Its a significant number of people (per capita) that do nothing but monitor people. These new systems are rather cheap; so much so that they feel a whole lot more inevitable.

Yep, it's converging to the same system...

In China government is controlled by chosen members of the ruling party who become wealthy through it;

In the US the government is controlled by billionaires who become powerful through it.

Neither is a "government by the people" nor a "democratic people's republic" and both are enacting more and more similar policies.

> When China did this, this was seen as a terrible violation of rights

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" [1].

Beijing showed the way. We followed their path. Both are at fault.

[1] https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham....

Let me quote the CEO of ycombinator.

>You're thinking Chinese surveillance

>US-based surveillance helps victims and prevents more victims

https://xcancel.com/garrytan/status/1963310592615485955

American capitalists are ideologically driven hypocrites.

>"When China did this, this was seen as a terrible violation of rights.... Now that we do this hundreds of times a day, it has become routine."

Normally questions like this would be labeled as whataboutism, false equivalence etc. One rule for thee, another one for me.

Personally I think we (The West) are heading to disaster. I really missed older times before 9/11

But china is safe and clean and nice, so it might be worth it. Anyway we got no privacy anymore, cameras are everywhere and we all captured on someone hard disk, so might as well take advantage of the benefits that comes with this technology