alt Hacker NewsHow Google got its groove back and edged ahead of OpenAI
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Google-as-the-new-Microsoft feels about right. Windows 1 was a curiosity, 2 was “ok”, and 3.x is where it started to really win. Same story with IE: early versions were a joke, then it became “good enough” + distribution did the rest.
Gemini 3 feels like Google’s “Windows 3 / IE4 moment”: not necessarily everyone’s favorite yet, but finally solid enough that the default placement starts to matter.
If you are the incumbent you don't need to be all that much better. Just good enough and you win by default. We'll all end up with Gemini 6 (IE 6, Windows XP) and then we'll have something to complain about.
While this article is just about optics, I would say the comments here about how the coding agents fare fail to realize we’re just a niche when compared to the actual consumer product that is the Chatbots for the average user.
My mom is not gonna use Claude Code, it doesn’t matter to her. We, on Hacker News, don’t represent the general population.
I don't get the Gemini 3 hype... yes it's their first usable model, but its not even close to what Opus 4.5 and GPT 5.2 can do.
Maybe on Benchmarks... but I'm forced to use Gemini at work everyday, while I use Opus 4.5 / GPT 5.2 privately every day... and Gemini is just lacking so much wit, creativity and multi-step problem solving skills compared to Opus.
Not to mention that Gemini CLI is a pain to use - after getting used to the smoothness of Claude Code.
Am I alone with this?
> Naina Raisinghani, 00 needed a name for the new tool to complete the upload. It was 2:30 a.m., though, and nobody was around. So she just made one up, a mashup of two nicknames friends had given her: Nano Banana.
Ah, that explains the silly name for such an impressive tool. I guess it's more a more Googley name than what would have otherwise been chosen: Google Gemini Image Pro Red for Workspace.
Gemini 3 is great, I have moved from gpt and haven't looked back. However, like many great models, I suspect they're expensive to run and eventually Google will nerf the model once it gains enough traction, either by distillation, quantizing, or smaller context windows in order to stop bleeding money.
Here is a report (whether true or not) of it happening:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GeminiAI/comments/1q6ecwy/gemini_30...
A bit of PR puffery, but it is fair to say that between Gemini and others it’s now been clearly demonstrated that OpenAI doesn’t have any clear moat.
my guess is the following:
Google can afford to run Gemini for a looong time without any ads, while OpenAI needs necessarily to bring in some revenue: So OpenAI will have to do something (or they believe they can raise money infinitely)
Google can easily give Gemini without Ads to the users for the next 3 - 4 years, forcing OpenAI to cripple their product earlier with Ads because of the need for any revenue
I think Google & Antropic will be one of the two winners; not sure about OpenAI, Perplexity & Co - maybe OpenAI will somehow merge with Microsoft?
What CRT standard is this meant to be emulating? It can't be NTSC, it's too clean. Red would never display that cleanly. Red was infamous for bleeding as the saturation increased. Never had much experience with True PAL in that I've only ever seen PAL at 60Hz so I'm not sure if had the same bleeding red issue.
It's these kinds of details that cab really set your yet another emulator apart
Alternate link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/how-google-got-its-gro...
Hi gemini, i’ve booked some tickets for théater. Please look into mail mailbox, schedule it in my calendar and confirm me the planning for next week.
Beeing able to use natural processing my mail and calendar make me switch to gemini (app), there’s no way to achieve that with chatgpt (app)
Gemini is now good enough, even if i prefer chatgpt.
I only care about what i can do in the app as paying customer, even if, aside from that, i am working in IT with the SDK openrouter & MCP intégration & whatever RAG & stuff for work
It would have to be significantly better than the competition for me to use a Google product.
I use Claude for Code, Gemini for research and planning and GPT for motivation.
It's funny how companies have a stable DNA: Google comes from university research and continues to be good at research-y things, OTOH customer service...
I like using gemini because it's so much cheaper when I'm running tests on enact protocol. I ask it to build multiple tools and let it run.
Gemini CLI is too slow to be useful, kind of surprised it was even offered and marketed given how painful it is to use. I thought it'd have to be damaging to the Gemini brand to get people to try it out, suffer painful UX then immediately stop using it. (Using it from Australia may also contribute to its slow perf)
Antigravity was also painful to use at launch where more queries failed then succeeded, however they've basically solved that now to the point where it's become my most used editor/IDE where I've yet to hit a quota limit, despite only being on the $20/mo plan - even when using Gemini 3 Pro as the default model. I also can't recall seeing any failed service responses after a month of full-time usage. It's not the fastest model, but very happy with its high quality output.
I expected to upgrade to a Claude Code Max plan after leaving Augment Code, but given how good Antigravity is now for its low cost, I've switched to it as my primary full-time coding assistant.
Still paying for GitHub Copilot / Claude Pro for general VS Code and CC terminal usage, but definitely getting the most value of out my Gemini AI Pro sub.
Note this is only for development, docs and other work product. For API usage in products, I primarily lean on the cheaper OSS chinese models, primarily MiniMax 2.1 for tool calling or GLM 4.7/KimiK2/DeepSeek when extra intelligence is needed (at slower perf). Gemini Flash for analyzing Image, Audio & PDFs.
Also find Nano Banana/Pro (Gemini Flash Image) to consistently generate the highest quality images vs GPT 1.5/SDXL,HiDream,Flux,ZImage,Qwen, which apparently my Pro sub includes up to 1000/day for Nano Banana or 100/day for Pro?? [1], so it's hard to justify using anything else.
If Gemini 3 Pro was a bit faster and Flash a bit cheaper (API Usage), I could easily see myself switching to Gemini for everything. If future releases get smarter, faster whilst remaining aggressively priced, in the future - I expect I will.
I don't think it's really "ahead" but it's pretty close now. There's not that big a difference among the SOTA models, they all have their pros/cons.
Is Gemini 3 still having all these bugs in the software around it? The model is great, but I had all these little bugs (billing issues, attachment not accesible by the model, countless other issues).
Then there is the CLI; I always got "model is overloaded" errors even after trying weekly for a while. I found Google has this complex priority system; their bigger customers get priority (how much you spend determines queue prio).
Anybody did some serious work with gemini-cli? Is it at Opus level?
Man, this looks like a press release written by Pinchai himself.
Doesn't WSJ even blush when publishing these kind of things?
Hot take : they didn't, pure players (OpenAI & Anthropics) just didn't go as fast as they claimed they would.
It seems to me like this is yet another instance of just reading vibes, like when GPT 5 was underwhelming and people were like "AI is dead", or people thinking Google was behind last year when 2.5 pro was perfectly fine, or overhyping stuff that makes no sense like Sora.
Wasn't the consensus that 3.0 isn't that great compared to how it benchmarks? I don't even know anymore, I feel I'm going insane.
All of this seems like manufactured hype for Gemini. I use GPT-5.2, Opus 4.5, and Gemini 3 flash and pro with Droid CLI and Gemini is consistently the worst. It gets stuck in loops, wants to wipe projects when it can’t figure out the problem, and still fails to call tools consistently (sometimes the whole thread is corrupted and you can’t rewind and use another model).
Terminal Bench supports my findings, GPT-5.2 and Opus 4.5 are consistently ahead. Only Junie CLI (Jetbrains exclusive) with Gemini 3 Flash scores somewhat close to the others.
It’s also why Ampcode made Gemini the default model and quickly back tracked when all of these issues came to light.
antigravity+browser use，check all rss，hot.uihash.com
If only they could figure out how to fiz the hallucination issues in gemini models...
Gemini is amazing. I switched to it and haven't looked back at ChatGPT. Very fast, very accurate, and pulls on the whole set of knowledge Google has from search.
I feel like Gemini made a giant leap forward in its coding capabilities and then in the past week or so it's become shit again - constantly dropping most of the code from my program when I ask it to add a feature - it's gone from incredible to basically useless.
They didn't get an edge, they are giving gemini pro for free for a year for university emails, obviously people will use it, after a year everyone will drop it, people aren't paying for this.
Google's ham-fisted rollout of Bard as an answer to Chat GPT's was a confounding variable because otherwise there was little reason to doubt Google's ability to compete at AI over the long-term. It's in their DNA.
I would add that openai is doing such a poor job at every aspect.
Before this gpt nonsense they were such an aspiration for a better world. They quickly turned around, slayer core people from its structure and solely focus on capitalising that they seem to be stuck on dead waters.
I dont see any reasons to use gpt5 at all.
antigravity+browser-use
Gemini is great because of far fewer rate limits compared to Open AI . When I hit a rate limit on Open AI, I switch to gemini.
The best decision for Google happened like 10 years ago when they started manufacturing their own silicon for crunching neural nets. No matter if they had a really good crystal ball back then, smart people, time travel machine or just luck, it pays for them now. They don't need to participate in that Ponzi scheme that OpenAI, Nvidia and Microsoft created, and they don't need to wait in line to buy Nvidia cards.
Being a monopoly worth trillions while having enough BUs to subsidize anything you can imagine does have its perks.
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They're about the same as far as I can tell.
lol, the story Disney did not make.
Just like the Disney movie, no touchy the Gemini.
lol somebody got a fat check from google. American journalism has become such a joke
It did? Just 1 minute ago Gemini told me it can't use my google workspace AGAIN. The query had nothing to do with any google workspace feature. It just randomly tells me what in the middle of any "conversation".
https://archive.is/TyJ8q