alt Hacker NewsOn the contrary, it’s the companies doing the lawyering. A disengagement is when the vehicle reverts fully back to manual control. Tele-operation does not count as a disengagement, and the frequency of tele-operation intervention is a closely guarded industry secret.
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brandall10 • last Wednesday at 11:41 PM
You seem to have some deeper insight into this - in your estimation, how often does tele-operation (even a small correction) take place?
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Oh interesting, I had figured tele-operation would count as a disengagements.
Looking into reports you mentioned in a child comment, CNN reports Cruise needed human assistance every ~5 miles [1]. And I certainly wouldn't call a system that needs assistance every ~5-10 minutes Level 4 self driving.
Subjectively, it appeared Waymo was significantly better than Cruise in 2023 but without data it's hard know what that means in terms of human intervention.
If Waymo needed human assistance every 10-20 minutes, I would agree that it also doesn't qualify as Level 4 autonomous.
[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/06/cruise-confirms-robotaxis-re...