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lookingdesklast Thursday at 3:01 PM7 repliesview on HN

Jeff Dean liquidated Google's entire AI ethics team because they wouldn't revise an academic publication to align with the corporate PR spin on AI.


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chubotlast Thursday at 4:01 PM

This is overstating it by a lot. Jeff was the AI lead at the time, and there was a big conflict between management and the ethics team

And I actually think Google needs to pay more attention to AI ethics ... but it's a publically traded company and the incentives are all wrong -- i.e. it's going to do whatever it needs to do keep up with the competition, similar to what happened with Google+ (perceived competition from Facebook)

tzikilast Thursday at 4:39 PM

You mean he fired one person who threatened to quit if the changes to the paper weren't to their liking? Or am I misremembering?

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whynotminotlast Thursday at 3:26 PM

As far as I can tell, no one seems to think much of value was lost.

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lemoncucumberlast Thursday at 5:10 PM

That incident was the first time I ever heard of Jeff Dean and remains the main thing I associate him with.

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morcuslast Thursday at 3:31 PM

I'm having trouble following what exactly this means.

So Jeff wanted the team to modify an existing publication to fit the PR spin on AI, the ethics team refused, and Jeff dissolved the team?

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tehjokeryesterday at 1:50 AM

reading about this incident years later, i gotta say, dang Gebru was right on a lot of things

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/12/04/1013294/google-a...

shemnon42last Thursday at 4:57 PM

Just another Jeff Dean optimizing out unneeded code story.