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llmslavelast Thursday at 9:22 PM1 replyview on HN

china has produced very little real innovation


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lossololast Thursday at 9:57 PM

Multi-head Latent Attention (MLA) + DeepSeekMoE? plus an auxiliary loss free load balancing strategy and multi token prediction objective to train/infer huge MoE models efficiently.

Have you seen Manifold Constrained Hyper Connections (mHC) paper from a few days ago from Deepseek? Projects residual connection space onto a constrained manifold to keep identity mapping properties while enabling richer internal connectivity, so basically it eliminates a huge problem.

They also released A LOT of training tricks and innovation around optimizing inference and training.

As to other industries:

"China leads research in 90% of crucial technologies — a dramatic shift this century" [1]

And here's[2] "China Is Rapidly Becoming a Leading Innovator in Advanced Industries", a big report on where they lead and how.

1. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-04048-7

2. https://itif.org/publications/2024/09/16/china-is-rapidly-be...