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siltcakeslast Friday at 1:52 AM5 repliesview on HN

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JumpCrisscrosslast Friday at 2:08 AM

> Jewish homeland is Poland, Russia, Germany

Jews have been in the Levant longer than they’ve been in Germany. (And in both for less time than they’ve been in America.)

The problem is with the notion of a homeland. Whose ancestors had what claim to something shouldn’t have bearing on how people are treated today.

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yoavmlast Friday at 6:52 AM

Do you have an example? I've studied quite a bit of Hertzel and what I mainly remember repeated to us is "We shall never discriminate between one man and another; We shall never ask 'what is your religion?' nor 'what is your race?'. For us it is enough that he is a human being." and "My will to the People of Israel: create your country in such a way, that the non-Jew will feel good to be your neighbour".

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xdennislast Friday at 2:36 AM

The Arab homeland is in Arabia, not Palestine. Palestine is a Roman creation after the destruction of Judea. It was named after a group of European invaders who conquered a small part of Israel 3000+ years ago.

Arabs aren't native to Palestine. Jews are. They were present in Palestine before the name Palestine was ever used.

nailerlast Friday at 3:41 AM

> Jewish homeland is Poland, Russia, Germany

Jews are from Judea. I think if unlikely you could be this stupid so I think it’s likely you’re just a racist.

And Palestians didn’t exist when Herzl wrote his book, which shows you haven’t read it.

ebbilast Friday at 2:35 AM

Exactly. It's usually the Zionist sources themselves that are unabashedly genocidal and supportive of ethnic cleansing.

More recent example is Bari Weiss, who wrote in 2021:

"The results of this mess, as always, are especially bad for the Palestinians who live under Hamas rule. Casualty reports are hard to verify because Hamas controls the media (even the international press) inside the Gaza Strip, but it appears that more than 50 Palestinians have been killed. Some of these people are entirely innocent non-combatants, including children. This is an unspeakable tragedy. It is also one of the unavoidable burdens of political power, of Zionism's dream turned into the reality of self-determination."

So according to Bari Weiss, the mass slaughter of children is one of Zionism's political responsibilities of power.