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signalnineyesterday at 3:28 AM2 repliesview on HN

lmao nondeterministic shell scripting


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jedwhiteyesterday at 3:37 AM

This is absolutely a new type of nondeterministic tool, so you're spot on there.

One of the key things we realized starting to use it is that the approach allows you to mix deterministic and non-deteministic tools together as part of a composable chain.

So you can, for example, use LLMs for their evaluation capabilities with a natiural language script as part of a broader chain that wraps it in deterministic code, and that also can include and run deterministic code nested within the plain language script.

So it allows us to create pipelines that combine the best of both approaches as appropriate based on the sub-task at hand.

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rvzyesterday at 11:53 AM

Exactly. The above is a terrible idea.

I guess these so called “developers” these days did not ever think about why this is needed. Ever.

The “senior/staff” engineers of 2025 are now at the same knowledge level of juniors in 2015 or were not at all “senior” to begin with ideas like this.