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seszettlast Friday at 5:59 PM2 repliesview on HN

That's what I do too (not iOS + GrapheneOS but the result is the same) as I was tired of fighting to make my bank apps and itsme (digital identity app in Belgium) work on my rooted phone.

Everytime I have to use a stock phone I'm appalled at the ads and I have absolutely no trust in any US or Chinese manufacturer. So I use them only for banking and digital id because that's presumably not what they actually care about.

It's not that expensive, I think many people have an old Android phone lying around, it doesn't have to be up to date.


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fphlast Friday at 6:04 PM

It is very ironic that the solution is using an old, insecure phone full of unpatched holes for all important banking and id business, because that one is vendor-allowed while your state-of-the-art GrapheneOS is not.

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tetris11last Friday at 6:07 PM

My job's SSO moved to provider that either required an unrooted phone or a reliable Voice auth.

For 2 years the voice authentication worked fine (they call me, I type in a number) on my regular rooted phone. Then one random morning I just stopped getting the phone calls. "Network said no".

Complete lock out, nothing I could do except go out and panic-buy an unrooted phone not running Lineage and using a modern Android version. (I tried my older unofficial lineage phones without root, and no dice.)

I opted for a good phone I could postmarket later, but gosh did it set me back almost 1/5 of my monthly salary.

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