TBH, if everyone involved is invested in what is being said, you don't need to be in person and you don't need to shut laptops.
If that is the majority of your meetings, you are in a good place.
The mistake is to think the rules are what makes the meeting useful. Having the right audience, an agenda, and appropriate expectations for the outcomes are the useful things.
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TBH, if everyone involved is invested in what is being said, you don't need to be in person and you don't need to shut laptops.
If that is the majority of your meetings, you are in a good place.
The mistake is to think the rules are what makes the meeting useful. Having the right audience, an agenda, and appropriate expectations for the outcomes are the useful things.