alt Hacker NewsAgreed - check out for example a Toyota rav4 le. This is the base model with effectively zero modern “subscription-esque” fancy features. It’s got a touchscreen and power windows, but otherwise it’s all the reliability/etc of Toyota and that’s it. About half the price of what most rav4s are listed at and $20k+ cheaper than a 4Runner.
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hedgehog • last Saturday at 4:22 PM
Oh no, across the line Toyota still tries to sell you a subscription service that's required for things like remote start.
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jacobbudin • last Saturday at 5:00 PM
In the United States (USD, MSRP):
* 2026 Toyota RAV4 LE (base trim) - $31,900
* 2026 Toyota RAV4 Limited (top trim) - $43,300
* 2026 Toyota 4Runner SR5 (base trim) - $41,570
It has a Data Communication Module - it spies on you. If you try to remove that, you lose audio in the front right speaker.